For me Finesse+ was second step
Don't usually go for a ST with less than 5* WF...how's his WF feel in game pls?
Defensively he's better than Lala, also surprisingly good going forward. There's not loads in it though.
I just don't get why I hardly play against anyone using him - sold Bunny Shaw after 3 games with him and she's cracked too, also displaced Ferran, Chiesa etc. as he's miles clear. He has everything and also the position changes too for different in game formations. Ridiculous card
Queen of the Cup
If you're only taking him to use LM/LW there are plenty of other cards that are much better and I reckon you'll either go back to them/buy one pretty quick. He really stands out at CAM, especially L/RCAM in a 4231 narrow.
Marksman, extra pace from Hawk has no impact
Him, better runs behind and insane finishing. Bruno probably better on playmaker sat a bit deeper.
He's miles clear of Ribery, he's quite disappointing after all the hype. Ferran amazing at ST too.
Got him tonight and after being quite hyped and after playing a few games he feels....alright? Really nice dribbling and passing but no pace at all, came here to see what chem people were using him with, as on Hawk he feels a bit sluggish. Champ's gameplay is **** as usual though so could be that. Chiesa miles clear.
Fastest card I've used all year, feels like he's much bigger and stronger in game than his stats but still plays super agile. Absolute bully on the wing. He's Low Driven away from being unplayable as a ST but not as necessary out wide. Was worried about no passing playstyles but don't notice in game his passing feels really nice. S Tier card.
Got ripped to bits by him last night, came here to see whether it was the opp. or card that was good.
Tried all of the TOTS budget defenders and personally like him the best. His animations are really good and that height really helps with interceptions.
Exactly where I've just played him and he completely ran the game - covers every blade of grass and strong as ****.
Either amazing or shite - there is no inbetween...
97 Composure and 95 Reactions plus top playstyles. Cheap beast.
Just open them now, you'll accrue loads more before then. Games done after TOTS (could argue it's done now...) so just get some nice cards now and enjoy.
He has a 5* WF...
Only tried him on AF - 23 goals in 12 Champs games (need to play last 3 tonight)
He's top tier if you give him space, genuinely feels like every shot is a goal. Only thing to watch out for is in closed spaces he struggles to get his shots off quickly, which is understandable for his height/build, but if you're used to using this type of player you'll understand that.
Just spend like 250k on Rooney and put rest of your coins into other positions
Yep believe the hype - cracked card, cost is outrageous.
Just packed him from the 82 x 7 but got Yaya and 94 Matthaus running my midfield...
Got him from the 82 x 7 objective reward - I swear this guy teleports around the pitch. It's not just the full suite of defensive playstyles but also relentless, quick step, first touch etc. Ridiculous card.
This guy alone justifies buying the season pass. He has it all - he's a top tier RB and can't see there being many too many better TOTS in this position that don't cost less than 500k.
You play Gullit at CAM Shadow Striker if you want to get the best out of him, he's wasted at CDM.
Really can't get on with him on a Hunter/Hawk, Engine definitely the way to go.
Gollum??
Just get the ball in the box, tap shoot and it's a goal. ridiculous card, can't believe he's this cheap.
Agree - can't even notice the difference in shooting from a Hunter but the buff to dribbling and passing is immense
Packed him twice - first one went into Gullit as generally can't get on with Mbappe cards. Played someone with him on an Engine and got cooked so tried it, holy **** he's like a different player, not sure what it is but just feels different.
Zambrotta is miles clear
Exceptional with the Exit Stage Left Evo, miles clear of Cap
In good gameplay a God, in bad gameplay a Dog.
Engine if you want to smooth out his dribbling but if you don't mind it Hunter. Maybe a maestro for CAM
If my aunt had a dick she'd be my uncle
81 x 3 get in you beauty!!!
For anyone asking if he replaces GG Kante... packed him last night in an 84 x 5 so thought I'd give him go instead of Kante as would also help out with chem, I love that Kante card but not going back. Feels better all round and more physical than Kante but really shines in the build up too. Really good value for what he offers.
Genuinely not exaggerating when I say this is one of the most broken ST I've used in the game for this time of year. I've had a lot of the big name cards outside of R9 & Henry and he is miles clear of them all. I don't usually go for physical ST but this Evo straightens him out. His finishing is so clinical on a Sniper and he's super quick, strong and agile. Must do Evo if you have him.
Sniper
I'm a bit spoilt at CAM so decided to try him as a LM in a 4411 and he's incredible cutting inside to join up the play.
Decided to go down the SBC route - would never have done this normally due to the low dribbling but **** me the SBC without any upgrades is cracked.
How's his dribbling/body type before the Evo pls? Always find his cards a bit clunky but this looks like it fixes it?
Wasted at CDM, have to play him CAM or at least CM. Just walks through players, **** worrying about dribbling (it's actually pretty nice), just get him in position and shoot. Ridiculously good card.
Just packed him - he has no additional info so no.
I have FB King, GG Araujo, FS Yoro and TOTY Evo Saliba and this cheap slab head outperforms them all. feels like he has every defensive playstyle and to top it off he's really agile which is so important when turning to chase. Incredible card for this price.
Have both - both excellent, not a huge difference in them (not 2m difference)
Yeah that gives him AF++ but already used it
Training camp takes him to 90 I think?
Anyone using him as a lone ST? Saw the Inception review saying not as effective in a 1 ST formation but I tend to default to a 4231 (3 CAM's) so plenty of support behind him in the build up. Cheers
Finisher - tried Hawk and didn't like him, silky smooth on a Finisher
If it helps I bought Keane last night but sold him after a few games, just something a bit off with him. Did Kolo tonight and he's night and day above Keane.
He's miles clear of Nunez
Did him and put him on a Hawk, instantly disliked him. Thought I'd try Finisher and he's come alive. That First Touch + is incredible.
Yep - Lvl 40 picks are cracked.
Yeah sorry meant base Rapid.
Just do the cup dribbling Evo, it boost his balance which is all he really needs, that and shot power which the shooting Evo gives you.
I honestly don't think he needs a pace boost, esp if you did Rapid+. Using him as a ST in Div 2 & Champs and he's still unreal, esp with the shooting and cup dribbling evo's. If you're relying on him sprinting from the half way line you're probably using him wrong. With a Hunter he's 96 & 92 which is more than enough - would rather add Fin+ and AF++. By the time he needs the pace there'll be 90 evo's.
Was awful for me for the first 20 or so games, just felt off and thought he was the biggest waste of fodder. Put him back in this weekend and he's been exactly as I initially expected, my MVP all weekend.
That's my midfield two - they complement each other really well. Kante Holding, Gomes DLP
Not used him for a few weeks, felt he was starting to drop behind the curve. Changed to a 4231 (3 CAM's) and put him back in at RCAM, he's genuinely clear of Maradonna so instantly into the shooting Evo. Pace still feels fine at CAM (prev did the Rapid EVO)
I'm genuinely shocked how good he is and I've only completed the first part of the Evo so don't even have the dribbling boosts and any PS+. His AI is incredible, even without AF++ . Div 2, 2 games and 8 goals and he's instantly replaced Bale. Going to add the shooting Evo from champs once complete also.
Don't forget he also fits the new cup shooting Evo too.
Icons , manager, Kante - won't be that difficult
Did him in the cup last night and just used him to do qualifiers - genuinely better than Bale or Best on the wing, he's one Evo away from being top top top tier.
No chance - there isn't one card available today that is truly end game, not even TOTY Mbappe. People will disagree, but come back in July and tell me different.
Best finisher I've used and his attacking AI is incredible, but as the defenders get stronger his lack of strength and height (and in turn natural pace) is getting quite noticeable and his passing is quite poor, so time to cash in. Still an incredible card though.
Don't think I've been as disappointed in a card...his animations are nice and his passing is really good but he's not zipping around the pitch and snapping into tackles like I'd expect from a Kante card. My Evo Gomes is miles clear.
Complete opposite for me - tried Puskas, Cantona and a few others and Dalglish is night and day clear, especially in the finishing department.
WW Kenny
Miles clear
Got him from the exchange last night then used him in Champs paired with Evo Saliba (replaced Konate). Really surprised me as his playstyles on paper look a bit **** but easily the best of the 3 of them. Feels like he has unique animations that make him feel like he has Anticipate+ and Intercept. Got those long ranging legs and really nice on the ball.
He's going to be free for Founders, just like ZZ
Have you done all 8 soft playstyles plus both gold playstyle +?
Really pleased I picked him - even his 80 feels special, nice body type and first touch/close control.
Genuinely don't sleep on this guy - outperforms cards 10x his price. Has all the positions, roles and playstyles and is ripe for an Evo. Honestly can't understand why he's this cheap.
True definition of playstyles over stats - his passing is some of the best in game but his stats are mid.
Yes - it's all on the EA website and SAF have done a really good summary on Twitter
After getting **** all out of the 83 x 20 got from a **** Daily Gold pack
Tried him, TOTY Puskas, WW Hamm and TOY Bale at ST and he's the best all rounder/value for money. You'll occasionally notice balance issues resulting in off target shooting but it's rare and makes up for it in other areas.
Agree - I think he's amazing but better in a 2 ST formation, that extra size/strength that Cantona has and the 5* WF makes him more rounded, especially for the price difference.
Hawk over Hunter if you're not going down the Engine/Controlled Explosive route?
For those wondering I tried him and WW Hamm - she has a ridiculous speed boost but all round I found him better
Just played against him - good God I hope I don't have to again.
Agree with everything you've said but I play her on the wing with no issue at all - especially as an Inside Forward who comes inside to use her L1/R1/L stick dribbling and passing playstyles- she absolutely cooks in the position.
I've done Bale and I love him, ZZ is my GOAT at CAM, but put a gun to my head and ask me which one doesn't go in a SBC and it's her.